IRC log of the meeting:

20:18:29 Pajarico	ok, i'm logging now
20:18:35 Modanung	Ok, you're logging
20:18:44 Pajarico	i talked to Rotonen 
20:19:02 Pajarico	i send him a brief with the latest drawings and he 
20:19:02 Modanung	About what?
20:19:05 Modanung	Ah
20:19:17 Modanung	What did he say?
20:19:26 Pajarico	and he told me that it was to abstract for him to visualize
20:19:32 Pajarico	:P
20:19:39 Pajarico	tipical finnish response
20:19:58 Modanung	Being drunk is tipically finnish...
20:20:06 Modanung	Did I see those drawings?
20:20:13 Modanung	...oh and taking sauna's.
20:20:36 Pajarico	Also he said artist should keep in contact with him
20:20:58 Modanung	He's seen the movie Mission Impossible too often
20:20:59 Pajarico	and that the mosnter would fit better in the jungle than in forest
20:21:14 Pajarico	do we have jungle?
20:21:17 Modanung	The frog?
20:21:19 Modanung	We will
20:21:21 Pajarico	yes
20:21:53 Pajarico	Also pointed that architecture was to organic for his taste, but i'm going to skeep that comment
20:22:00 Modanung	:S
20:22:02 Pajarico	sorry Rotonen :p
20:22:06 Modanung	The swirly thingy?
20:22:10 Pajarico	yes
20:22:17 Modanung	Too organic?
20:22:20 Modanung	Naaah
20:23:09 Modanung	Rotonen: Never played with clay when you were young?
20:23:20 Pajarico	http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2120/archfiretemple00019ea.jpg
20:23:25 Pajarico	http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2120/archfiretemple00019ea.jpg
20:23:29 Pajarico	http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2120/archfiretemple00019ea.jpg
20:23:39 Pajarico	Just adding links so they appear in the log
20:24:02 Modanung	The same link 3 times?
20:24:12 Modanung	:S
20:24:24 Pajarico	http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7943/archlsd8fe.png
20:24:27 Modanung	Pajarico: Did you see my tiles btw?
20:24:31 Pajarico	http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1467/creaturefrog013hd.png
20:24:38 Modanung	http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Modanung/savannah_mud1_3x3.png
20:24:41 Modanung	http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Modanung/savannah_grass1_3x3.png
20:24:43 Pajarico	Modanung, which ones? i don't think so
20:25:14 Modanung	Those
20:25:17 Pajarico	ok
20:25:25 Pajarico	the grass , a bit tiled but good
20:25:40 Pajarico	the mud is ok, just make more variations 
20:25:48 Pajarico	the mud is for desert?
20:25:53 Modanung	Savannah
20:25:57 Pajarico	ok
20:26:01 Pajarico	and grass?
20:26:03 Modanung	I know, it still needs some work
20:26:09 Modanung	Savannah as well
20:26:21 Pajarico	add some yellow leaves to grass
20:26:52 Modanung	Pajarico: You mean hue variation per blade?
20:27:46 Pajarico	Modanung, dunno, I mean make grass look as it was deficient on nitrogen and water
20:29:10 Modanung	Pajarico: Ok, yes... could do that
20:30:26 *	Pajarico is scanning
20:30:35 Modanung	Pajarico: Another concept?
20:30:45 Pajarico	yep, for poor houses
20:30:59 Pajarico	that's why i skipped Rotonen suggestion
20:31:10 Pajarico	because we will have poor and rich
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20:33:06 Modanung	Pajarico: Hmhm
20:33:17 Pajarico	what?
20:33:31 Pajarico	http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/6189/archmudhouses9ke.png
20:33:42 Pajarico	the poor houses are made of mud
20:33:46 Pajarico	nothing fancy
20:35:09 Modanung	I like it :)
20:35:22 Pajarico	nice:)
20:35:41 Modanung	No wooden frame sticking out?
20:36:00 Modanung	How would they do the roof?
20:37:08 Pajarico	Modanung, i thought the would do a wood structure and cover it with mud
20:37:23 Pajarico	but in some houses that can be added
20:37:35 Pajarico	actually, i'm working for tileability
20:37:48 Pajarico	so we could have basic tiles for the houses
20:38:03 Modanung	Tilability won't be hard with these houses
20:38:06 Pajarico	plus wooden structures, cracks, windows, etc
20:38:53 Modanung	Yes, eroded corners exposing the wood structure and such?
20:38:53 *	Pajarico is scanning again
20:39:06 Pajarico	Modanung, exactly
20:39:16 Modanung	Great mind think alike ;)
20:41:10 Modanung	+s
20:42:11 Pajarico	The texture and color of the mud should be something like this
20:42:13 Pajarico	http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2161/desertgold2vv.jpg
20:43:10 Modanung	Yes, that's probably right
20:43:28 Modanung	I was thinking slightly less saturated I think
20:44:10 Pajarico	I was thinking keeping that ONLY for houses
20:44:21 Pajarico	and make the roads a bit less saturated
20:44:41 Pajarico	?
20:44:46 Modanung	I said "slightly"
20:44:51 Modanung	VERY slightly
20:45:00 Modanung	This || much
20:45:06 Modanung	Maybe even less
20:45:18 Pajarico	ok
20:45:26 Pajarico	next drawing:
20:45:32 Modanung	Bring it on
20:45:37 Pajarico	please disregard the upper left corner
20:45:40 Pajarico	http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/926/mapcityskirts1wx.png
20:45:41 Modanung	I will
20:45:49 Pajarico	it is a bit incomplete
20:46:10 Pajarico	and i have to change the orientation of the crops
20:46:25 Modanung	First of all.. I think this is one of you straightest drawn pictures I've seen until now
20:47:01 Modanung	Are those city walls?
20:47:20 Pajarico	the black ones, yes
20:47:44 Pajarico	this is only to show that royal tombs are after the crops zone
20:47:53 Pajarico	and that the crops are above the city
20:48:14 Pajarico	also note that crops and tombs are in a mountains actually
20:48:30 Pajarico	and that the only way to acces it is 
20:48:34 Modanung	In some earlier designs there were mountains behind the palace so I placed the cropsarea on the other side of town.
20:48:45 Modanung	Ah
20:48:55 Modanung	The crops are INSIDE the mountain?
20:48:57 Pajarico	either by the city wall or by the left
20:49:12 Pajarico	The crops are over the mountain
20:49:20 Pajarico	it has to get some sun
20:49:34 Modanung	More like a hillside then
20:49:46 Pajarico	the rocks at the left could be a desert-rockish xone
20:49:53 Pajarico	zone
20:50:05 Modanung	Left or right?
20:50:08 Pajarico	with some difficult enemies
20:50:21 Pajarico	right, sorry
20:50:25 Modanung	Ok
20:50:27 Pajarico	maybe serpents
20:50:46 m[a]tt		http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Modanung/savannah_grass1_3x3.png nice
20:50:47 Modanung	Or Fhqwugaats
20:51:07 Modanung	m[a]tt: Thanks
20:51:21 Pajarico	the problem with it is that climbing from left to right or right to left is not doable ATM
20:52:05 Pajarico	any comments before passing this point?
20:52:17 Modanung	Pajarico: Not in an elegant way, no
20:52:28 Modanung	(the climbing)
20:52:32 Pajarico	yeah
20:52:42 Pajarico	i think i can trick it
20:52:52 Modanung	How's that?
20:53:36 Pajarico	just make a turn in the moment were the player goes to a higher level
20:53:44 Pajarico	so the transition is made
20:53:51 Modanung	Pajarico: Like... this?: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Modanung/Mountain2.jpg
20:53:53 Pajarico	from bottom to top
20:54:12 Pajarico	? 
20:54:14 Modanung	Ah, you mean like a mountain road
20:54:22 Pajarico	yes
20:54:34 Modanung	With U-turns
20:54:48 Pajarico	could be
20:54:59 Pajarico	or just one U-turn at the end
20:55:01 Modanung	Or S-turns
20:55:13 Pajarico	well, you get the point :)
20:55:20 Pajarico	Next point?
20:55:37 Modanung	Fine with me
20:55:56 Pajarico	ok
20:56:07 Pajarico	I have to talk about the organization
20:56:16 Pajarico	i need pixel artist that are free
20:56:23 Pajarico	and start to give them job
20:56:32 Modanung	Well I've got my final test tomorrow
20:56:41 Modanung	After that I can skip homework
20:56:56 Modanung	...again
20:57:23 Pajarico	Modanung, you were the chief of the savannah, right?
20:58:14 Pajarico	BTW, free=without assigned tasks
20:58:21 Modanung	Yes
20:58:34 Modanung	And yes, I got that
20:59:01 Pajarico	Ok, so you already have work to do :)
20:59:13 Modanung	Pajarico: I could work on Tulimshar tiles as well
20:59:20 Modanung	Pajarico: You don't really do tiles, right?
20:59:25 Pajarico	I will look in the task list and contact pixel artists
20:59:28 Pajarico	Modanung, nope
21:00:13 Pajarico	Modanung, have you make some progress with savannah?
21:00:17 Modanung	Pajarico: I made a start with Tulimshar architecture, so I'd like to at least finish my house
21:00:28 Pajarico	Modanung, do it
21:00:33 Pajarico	and pass to your task
21:00:34 Modanung	Pajarico: Just the 2 tiles and some concepts
21:00:46 Pajarico	Modanung, do your task :)
21:01:02 Pajarico	I don't want artists to pass from one zone to another
21:01:07 Modanung	Pajarico: I'd like to turn your mud accomodations into pixelheaps as well
21:01:29 Modanung	Pajarico: And I don't like crappy art
21:01:32 Pajarico	so no savannah work right now?
21:01:52 Pajarico	crappy art?
21:02:04 Modanung	Pajarico: Nevermind
21:02:19 Modanung	I could do both Tulimshar and Savannah
21:02:25 Pajarico	Show me your savannah work
21:02:28 Modanung	Depending on my mood
21:02:49 Modanung	http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Modanung/Tablefaunt.jpg
21:02:53 Modanung	http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Modanung/packer.jpg
21:03:22 Modanung	Maybe I'll put this one in the Savannah instead of the forrest: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Modanung/TMW_Grazer1_edit.jpg
21:03:53 Pajarico	I think so
21:03:55 Modanung	And I did a concept drawing with a sunset and some cliffs... but I didn't like it so I dodn't scan it
21:04:11 Pajarico	ok, any tiles?
21:04:57 Modanung	Pajarico: The mud and grass
21:05:01 Pajarico	ok
21:05:26 Modanung	Pajarico: BTW, 'savannah' is just a WIP name I guess
21:05:46 Pajarico	i will talk to ElvenProgrammer or MrLindeijer 
21:05:56 Pajarico	about adding avatars to the gameplay
21:06:00 Modanung	It's between the desert and forest, but it won't exactly look like the real savannah we have on Earth.
21:06:07 Pajarico	like rolling stones
21:06:17 Pajarico	that fall and hits you
21:06:19 Modanung	Pajarico: As in face close-uped avatars?
21:06:29 Modanung	Pajarico: I like Rolling Stones
21:07:07 Pajarico	we can include Jagger
21:07:16 Pajarico	as a grumpy magician 
21:08:03 Pajarico	seen Mkael 
21:08:05 ManaEgg		I last saw Mkael joining an IRC channel, 8 Hours, 36 Minutes ago, something like the following; "*** Mkael has joined #tmwart"
21:08:10 Mkael		:)
21:08:17 Pajarico	hi Mkael 
21:08:20 Mkael		hello
21:08:22 Pajarico	any news?
21:08:24 Mkael		doing math
21:08:31 Mkael		tomorrow propably
21:08:35 Pajarico	soooo funny :)
21:08:39 Modanung	Pajarico: An avatar: interactive representation of a human in a virtual reality environment
21:08:59 Pajarico	It has another definition
21:09:02 Mkael		Pajarico :P
21:09:17 Modanung	Pajarico: The characters we have now are also avatars... but did you mean square pictures like in Baldurs Gate?
21:09:45 Pajarico	Modanung, no,  stuff that difficults you doing a task
21:09:55 Pajarico	actually that's its real definition
21:10:03 Pajarico	dunno were the image thing comes
21:10:28 Pajarico	another definition: misfotune
21:10:37 Pajarico	or "handicap"
21:10:58 Modanung	Pajarico: And yes, Elizabeth Jagger would make a great grumpy magician
21:11:38 Pajarico	is her Mike's daughter?
21:12:10 Modanung	Pajarico: Dunno
21:12:19 Pajarico	ok, nevermind
21:12:31 Pajarico	i don't have anything else to say
21:12:34 Pajarico	Modanung, 
21:12:39 Modanung	Pajarico: Could you give an example of this avatar?
21:12:42 Pajarico	add yourself to the task list
21:12:47 Modanung	Pajarico: And it's Mick
21:13:12 Pajarico	Modanung, forget about the avatar thing,
21:13:24 Modanung	ok
21:13:31 Pajarico	what i want are rolling stones that fall from a cliff and hits the player
21:13:37 Modanung	Pajarico: What task list? You mean the Assignments page on the wiki?
21:13:42 Pajarico	yes
21:13:49 Modanung	Pajarico: I know what you meant
21:14:07 Modanung	Pajarico: I'm already on that list, with all the tasks I already had
21:14:13 Modanung	...and still have
21:14:24 Pajarico	then add tulimshar poor houses
21:14:49 Modanung	Pajarico: Ah yes... I also forgot...
21:15:04 Pajarico	i will make more drawings about poor houses and stuff
21:15:05 Modanung	ElvenProgrammer asked me to take over the new playerset from Talaroc
21:15:10 Pajarico	and then contact artist
21:15:21 Modanung	I think that has pretty high priority
21:15:21 Pajarico	give me a week at least
21:15:28 Pajarico	Modanung, ok
21:15:35 Pajarico	are you working on it?
21:15:42 Pajarico	(the playerset)
21:17:11 Pajarico	Modanung?
21:18:12 Modanung	Pajarico: Not yet
21:18:31 Modanung	Pajarico: ElvenProgrammer asked me this week, and this week was my week o' tests
21:18:35 Modanung	So I was really busy
21:19:02 Pajarico	Crush has no tasks
21:19:09 Pajarico	i will talk to him
21:19:24 Pajarico	then is over
21:19:28 Pajarico	ok?
21:20:12 Modanung	Pajarico: Guess so
21:20:28 Modanung	Pajarico: Then I'll get on with studying my chemistry
21:20:40 Pajarico	organic or inorganic?
21:20:55 Modanung	Both
21:21:02 Pajarico	it was a pain for me 
21:21:05 Pajarico	so good luck
21:21:08 Pajarico	bye
21:21:37 Modanung	I'm planning on studying after high-school
21:21:56 Modanung	So I'd better not screw it up :)
21:21:59 Modanung	Anyway, bye
21:22:12 Pajarico	----MEETING IS OVER----