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==Monster sounds==
{{Category:Outdated}}
 
== Monster sounds ==
 
Number of existing sound effects wired in for the monsters. (Note that the categories have no in-game correspondency.)
 
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"
|-
|-
|Monster
! style="background: #efdead" rowspan="2" colspan="2" | Category
|attack hit
! style="background: #efdead" rowspan="2" | Monster
|attack miss
! style="background: #efdead" rowspan="2" | ID
|hurt
! style="background: #efdead" colspan="5" | Sound effects
|dying
|-
|misc
! style="background: #efdead" | hit
! style="background: #efdead" | miss
! style="background: #efdead" | hurt
! style="background: #efdead" | die
! style="background: #efdead" | misc
|-
| rowspan="4" | Arachnids
| rowspan="3" | Scorpions
| Black Scorpion
| 7
| {{good|4}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Red Scorpion
| 2
| {{good|4}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Scorpion
| 1
| {{good|4}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="1" | Spiders
| [[Spider]]
| 10
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="1" | Birds
| rowspan="1" | Waterfowls
| Duck
| 46
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="2" | Fungi
| rowspan="2" | Mushrooms
| Evil Mushroom
| 11
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Spiky Mushroom
| 17
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="1" | Gastropods
| rowspan="1" | Snails
| Snail
| 39
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="3" | Insects
| rowspan="3" | Maggots
| Maggot
| 0
| {{good|2}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Giant Maggot
| 4
| {{good|2}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Silkworm
| 33
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="5" | Mammals
| rowspan="1" | [[Bat|Bats]]
| Bat
| 15
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="2" | Fluffies
| Easter Fluffy
| 25
| {{good|3}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Fluffy
| 18
| {{good|3}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="1" | Mouboos
| Mouboo
| 26
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| colspan="1" | Squirrels
| Squirrel
| 36
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|2}}
| {{good|2}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="7" | Plants
| rowspan="1" | Flowers
| Flower
| 12
| {{good|2}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="5" | Herbs
| Alizarin Plant
| 30
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Clover Patch
| 35
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Cobalt Plant
| 28
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Gamboge Plant
| 29
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Mauve Plant
| 27
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="1" | Trees
| Log Head
| 23
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|5}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="6" | Reptiles
| rowspan="1" | Lizards
| Fire Lizard
| 37
| {{good|2}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="5" | Snakes
| Cave Snake
| 19
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Maggot
| Grass Snake
|X
| 32
|X
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|X
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Giant Maggot
| Mountain Snake
|X
| 24
|X
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|X
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Scorpion
| Snake
|X
| 8
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Fire Goblin
| Snake Lord
|X
| 44
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Bat
| rowspan="7" | Undead
|X
| rowspan="1" | Ghosts
|
| Jack O
|
| 20
|X
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Red/Pink Mushroom
| rowspan="3" | Skeletons
|X
| Fallen
|
| 43
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Flower
| [[Lady Skeleton]]
|X
| 42
|X
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Snake / Lamp Snake
| Skeleton
|
| 41
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Spider
| rowspan="2" | Skulls
|
| Fire Skull
|
| 21
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Slime (all colors)
| Poison Skull
|X
| 22
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Pinkie
| rowspan="1" | Zombies
|X
| Zombie
|X
| 34
|
| {{good|2}}
|
| {{good|1}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{good|2}}
|-
|-
|Fluffy
| rowspan="11" | ?
|X
| rowspan="1" | Goblins
|X
| Fire Goblin
|X
| 9
|
| {{good|2}}
|
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Flame Skull
| rowspan="1" | Pinkies
|
| Pinkie
|
| 16
|
| {{good|1}}
|
| {{good|1}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Poison Skull
| rowspan="6" | Slimes
|
| Green Slime
|
| 3
|
| {{good|1}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
|Pumpkin Ghost
| Red Slime
|
| 6
|
| {{good|1}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
|
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|-
| Rudolph Slime
| 14
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Santa Slime
| 13
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Sea Slime
| 31
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| [[Yellow Slime]]
| 5
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| rowspan="3" | Wisps
| Poltergeist
| 45
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Spectre
| 40
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Wisp
| 38
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|}
|}


==Other sounds==
== Weapon sounds ==
 
Number of existing sound effects wired in for the weapons.
 
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"
|-
!rowspan="2" style="background:#efdead;"| Category
!rowspan="2" style="background:#efdead;"| Weapon
!rowspan="2" style="background:#efdead;"| ID
!colspan="3" style="background:#efdead;"| Sound effects
|-
!style="background:#efdead;"| hit
!style="background:#efdead;"| strike
!style="background:#efdead;"| swing
|-
|colspan="3" style="text-align:center;"| (Punch)
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|rowspan="4"| Axes
| Axe
| 549
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Blacksmith's Axe
| 550
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Meat Cleaver
| 605
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Hatchet
| 606
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|rowspan="4"| Bows
| Bow
| 1200
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|1}}
|-
| Desert Bow
| 575
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Forest Bow
| 545
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Short Bow
| 530
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|rowspan="7"| Knives
| Bone Knife
| 570
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Dagger
| 521
| {{good|1}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Knife
| 1201
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Rock Knife
| 579
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Setzer
| 571
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Sharp Knife
| 522
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Stiletto
| 592
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|rowspan="1"| Maces
| Club
| 609
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|rowspan="11"| Polearms
| Bardiche
| 547
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Dual Spear
| 598
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Halberd
| 548
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Heavy Pike
| 597
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Heavy Spear
| 595
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Pike
| 596
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Scorpion
| 574
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Scythe
| 623
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Spear
| 594
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Trident
| 607
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Wooden Staff
| 758
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|rowspan="4"| Staves
| Crescent Rod
| 581
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Staff of Fire
| 582
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Staff of Ice
| 583
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Staff of Life
| 580
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|rowspan="15"| Swords
| Baselard
| 590
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Bastard Sword
| 588
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Beheader
| 576
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Broad Sword
| 589
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Falchion
| 573
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Fire Sword
| 599
| {{bad|0}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Jackal
| 584
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Long Sword
| 591
| {{good|2}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Rapier
| 593
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Sabre
| 561
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Sand Cutter
| 578
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Scimitar
| 572
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Short Sword
| 536
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Sword
| 587
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
| Toy Sabre
| 1215
| {{good|1}}
| {{good|1}}
| {{bad|0}}
|-
|rowspan="1"| Thrown
| Bone Darts
| 577
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
| {{bad|0}}
|}
 
== Other sounds ==
 
=== Done ===
=== Done ===
Weapons:
Weapons:
* Knife/dagger (miss/hit)
* Bow shooting arrow (miss/hit)
*Short Sword (miss/hit)
 
*Punch (hit)
Location based:
Misc:
* [http://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/Image:Boil.ogg| Boiling water] (not in Git)
* Level up - probably better for composer to create.
* Burning fire
* Bow throwing arrow - old version.  Currently in use.
* River
Walking:
* Waterfall
none
 
Miscellaneous:
* Level-up (probably better for a composer to create)


=== Needed ===
=== Needed ===
Weapons:
*Bow (miss/hit)
*Punch (miss)


Misc:
Miscellaneous:
*Sounds of player taking damage. Several ones to avoid repetition
* Player taking damage (several ones to avoid repetition)
*Click button sound
* Button click
*Death
* Death
*Pick item
* Picking up item
*Drop item
* Dropping item
 
Walking:
Walking:
*Plants (Male/Female)
* Plants
*Sand (Male/Female)
* Sand
*Stone outdoors (Male/Female)
* Stone outdoors
*Stone indoors (Male/Female)
* Stone indoors
*Wood (Male/Female)
* Wood
*Dirt (Male/Female)
* Dirt
*Carpet (Male/Female)
* Carpet
*Metal (Male/Female)
* Metal
*Ankle deep water (Male/Female)
* Ankle deep water
 
== Specification of file format ==
 
Naming convention:
* name-action#.ogg (for example <code>short-sword-miss2.ogg</code>)
 
In-game format:
* Ogg Vorbis (<code>.ogg</code>)
* 128 kbps stereo
 
Format for archival:
* PCM (<code>.wav</code>)
* 44.1 K 16 bit stereo
 
== References ==
 
Client data:
* [http://gitorious.org/tmwdata/mainline/trees/master/sfx sfx/] — the directory containing the sound effects
* [http://gitorious.org/tmwdata/mainline/blobs/raw/master/monsters.xml monsters.xml] — where sound effects are wired in for monsters
* [http://gitorious.org/tmwdata/mainline/blobs/raw/master/items.xml items.xml] — where sound effects are wired in for items


=== File Specs ===
Client source:
* [http://gitorious.org/tmw/mainline/blobs/raw/master/src/localplayer.cpp src/localplayer.cpp] — where the punching sound effect is hardcoded in
* [http://gitorious.org/tmw/mainline/blobs/raw/master/src/resources/monsterdb.cpp src/resources/monsterdb.cpp] — the types of sound effects used for monsters
* [http://gitorious.org/tmw/mainline/blobs/raw/master/src/resources/itemdb.cpp src/resources/itemdb.cpp] — the types of sound effects used for items


Format:
Sound Technology:
*Ogg Vorbis .ogg
*[http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9992 3D Soundscape system discussion].
*128 kbps stereo
Naming Convention:
*name-action#.ogg
*example short-sword-miss2.ogg
Archival:
*PCM .wav
*44.1 K 16 bit stereo

Latest revision as of 03:56, 27 March 2024

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Monster sounds

Number of existing sound effects wired in for the monsters. (Note that the categories have no in-game correspondency.)

Category Monster ID Sound effects
hit miss hurt die misc
Arachnids Scorpions Black Scorpion 7 4 1 0 0 0
Red Scorpion 2 4 1 0 0 0
Scorpion 1 4 1 0 0 0
Spiders Spider 10 0 0 0 0 0
Birds Waterfowls Duck 46 0 0 0 0 0
Fungi Mushrooms Evil Mushroom 11 1 0 0 0 0
Spiky Mushroom 17 1 0 0 0 0
Gastropods Snails Snail 39 0 0 0 0 0
Insects Maggots Maggot 0 2 1 0 1 0
Giant Maggot 4 2 1 0 1 0
Silkworm 33 0 0 0 0 0
Mammals Bats Bat 15 1 0 0 1 0
Fluffies Easter Fluffy 25 3 1 1 0 0
Fluffy 18 3 1 1 0 0
Mouboos Mouboo 26 0 0 0 0 0
Squirrels Squirrel 36 0 0 2 2 0
Plants Flowers Flower 12 2 1 0 0 0
Herbs Alizarin Plant 30 0 0 0 0 0
Clover Patch 35 0 0 0 0 0
Cobalt Plant 28 0 0 0 0 0
Gamboge Plant 29 0 0 0 0 0
Mauve Plant 27 0 0 0 0 0
Trees Log Head 23 0 0 5 0 0
Reptiles Lizards Fire Lizard 37 2 1 0 0 0
Snakes Cave Snake 19 1 0 0 0 0
Grass Snake 32 0 0 0 0 0
Mountain Snake 24 0 0 0 0 0
Snake 8 0 0 0 0 0
Snake Lord 44 0 0 0 0 0
Undead Ghosts Jack O 20 0 0 0 0 0
Skeletons Fallen 43 0 0 0 0 0
Lady Skeleton 42 0 0 0 0 0
Skeleton 41 0 0 0 0 0
Skulls Fire Skull 21 0 0 0 0 0
Poison Skull 22 0 0 0 0 0
Zombies Zombie 34 2 1 0 1 2
? Goblins Fire Goblin 9 2 1 0 0 0
Pinkies Pinkie 16 1 1 0 0 0
Slimes Green Slime 3 1 0 0 0 0
Red Slime 6 1 0 0 0 0
Rudolph Slime 14 0 0 0 0 0
Santa Slime 13 0 0 0 0 0
Sea Slime 31 1 0 0 0 0
Yellow Slime 5 1 0 0 0 0
Wisps Poltergeist 45 0 0 0 0 0
Spectre 40 0 0 0 0 0
Wisp 38 0 0 0 0 0

Weapon sounds

Number of existing sound effects wired in for the weapons.

Category Weapon ID Sound effects
hit strike swing
(Punch) 1 0 0
Axes Axe 549 0 0 0
Blacksmith's Axe 550 0 0 0
Meat Cleaver 605 0 0 0
Hatchet 606 0 0 0
Bows Bow 1200 0 0 1
Desert Bow 575 0 0 0
Forest Bow 545 0 0 0
Short Bow 530 0 0 0
Knives Bone Knife 570 0 0 0
Dagger 521 1 1 0
Knife 1201 0 0 0
Rock Knife 579 0 0 0
Setzer 571 0 0 0
Sharp Knife 522 0 1 0
Stiletto 592 0 0 0
Maces Club 609 0 0 0
Polearms Bardiche 547 0 0 0
Dual Spear 598 0 0 0
Halberd 548 0 0 0
Heavy Pike 597 0 0 0
Heavy Spear 595 0 0 0
Pike 596 0 0 0
Scorpion 574 0 0 0
Scythe 623 0 0 0
Spear 594 0 0 0
Trident 607 0 0 0
Wooden Staff 758 0 0 0
Staves Crescent Rod 581 0 0 0
Staff of Fire 582 0 0 0
Staff of Ice 583 0 0 0
Staff of Life 580 0 0 0
Swords Baselard 590 0 0 0
Bastard Sword 588 0 0 0
Beheader 576 0 0 0
Broad Sword 589 1 0 0
Falchion 573 0 0 0
Fire Sword 599 0 1 0
Jackal 584 0 0 0
Long Sword 591 2 1 0
Rapier 593 1 0 0
Sabre 561 0 0 0
Sand Cutter 578 0 0 0
Scimitar 572 0 0 0
Short Sword 536 0 0 0
Sword 587 0 0 0
Toy Sabre 1215 1 1 0
Thrown Bone Darts 577 0 0 0

Other sounds

Done

Weapons:

  • Bow shooting arrow (miss/hit)

Location based:

Miscellaneous:

  • Level-up (probably better for a composer to create)

Needed

Miscellaneous:

  • Player taking damage (several ones to avoid repetition)
  • Button click
  • Death
  • Picking up item
  • Dropping item

Walking:

  • Plants
  • Sand
  • Stone outdoors
  • Stone indoors
  • Wood
  • Dirt
  • Carpet
  • Metal
  • Ankle deep water

Specification of file format

Naming convention:

  • name-action#.ogg (for example short-sword-miss2.ogg)

In-game format:

  • Ogg Vorbis (.ogg)
  • 128 kbps stereo

Format for archival:

  • PCM (.wav)
  • 44.1 K 16 bit stereo

References

Client data:

  • sfx/ — the directory containing the sound effects
  • monsters.xml — where sound effects are wired in for monsters
  • items.xml — where sound effects are wired in for items

Client source:

Sound Technology:

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